We Hindus Have 330 Million+ Gods, Seriously!

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  1. Prashanth says:

    Thank you very much for your detailed post. I’m glad to have found it.
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    Your post discusses several matters involving Hinduism and God in general.
    I’m mostly in agreement with you and would prefer to have a direct discussion with you (typing a response would make it as lengthy as your post and you wouldn’t wish to read that). Perhaps I’ll ping you on Facebook and take it up there. But that’s for another time.
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    You’re wrong in one point though – there does seem to be some truth to the concept of 33 Kodi actually meaning 33 TYPES, instead of 33 crores.
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    You had mentioned the Tamizh phrase “mupathu mukkodi” – can you please clarify in which Tamizh DEVOTIONAL song or book is this phrase featured? I’m a Tamizhan too but to my understanding – this phrase is part of colloquial usage but officially I don’t remember reading it in any works by Hindu gnaanis (neither naayanmaargal nor aazhvaargal nor muruga-bakthargal).
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    INSTEAD, Arunagirinaathar (author of Thiruppugazh and many celebrated Tamizh works) sings in his FIRST ever composition:
    Muthai tharu…
    … Muppathumu VARGATHU amararum adipaena
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    The Tamizh word VARGAM may have several meanings, but NOTHING related to CRORE.
    Vargam’s MAIN meaning is TYPE.
    Hence, Arunagirinaathar – a Gnaani, foremost scholar of Tamizh, a saint clearly mentions 33 TYPES of DEVAS. NOT 33 CRORES.
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    To your point as to why 33 Types is NOT mentioned in Puraanas or Upanishads is because these are deep concepts NOT required for normal folks.
    For the folks who study Puraanas/Upanishads/Vedas, this is WELL KNOWN so no need to mention it.
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    For example, if you’re writing a car manual, you assume that the person KNOWS what is a steering wheel, what is a tyre, gear, brake, and how to drive a car. The manual doesn’t teach you to drive or detail the rules.
    It mentions concepts more advanced that all those basics.
    LIKEWISE, 33 TYPES of DEVAS is a basic concept for those who have been taught the Vedas by their Gurus (who would clarify that it is 33 types and not crores). So it is not explicitly clarified in writing in the Vedas.
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    Did you learn Vedas from Kanchi Paramaachaarya or Sringeri Sankaraacharya?
    If not, then you have learnt Vedas from websites or from people with half-knowledge. So they too would not know the proper meaning of the muppathumu vargathu amararum.
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  2. KB says:

    There is one more view here which Abdul may not be noticed

    GOD – 1 in 3 God
    Angels (or gods) – 100 crore
    2/3 were Devas or good angels
    1/3 were Asusras or Fallen Angels along with his leader Saithan

    Good angels were doing good jobs connecting human with God , who unite them with ultimate GOD
    Fallen angels – they fell on earth and disturb mankind
    All that anger, Lust,Malice were thrown upon people that is what we witness today on earth

    There is reference for these in Bible and Kuran
    But you can find reference anywhere in hinduism for this and update it here

    This view is more close to REALITY and practical
    Happy searching for GOD

  3. VH says:

    Excellent discussion.

    Have seen many Islamists fighting on above mentioned topic. They need customer for their conversion business.

    You were fortunate as you convinced Abdul so easily.

    1 point to be made clear. Whether I believe in billions Deva OR million Deva OR Thousands Deva OR Hundreds Deva OR 1 Deva OR fractional Deva OR ZERO Deva. That is none of your business. I believe in 1 reality whom science calls consciousness. I disbelieve that any prophet OR messenger is required.

    In Sanaatan Dharma, multiple beliefs co exists but with Abraham, … …

    Leave this. A nice blog to refer

  4. ASHWANI K. MONGA says:

    Dear Mr. Udaylal,
    At the out set I wish to thank you for such an educative conversation clarifying many myths which myself and many of my Hindu friends take it forgranted due to lack of exposure. If I am not mistaken every purohit/ shastri recalls through some mantra your kul deva, gram deva, sthan deva, all devas before any ritual. I hope that you shall continue to enlighten us on Hindutva based on our ancient scriptures which every educated Hindu should know.

    ASHWANI K. MONGA

  5. dr.himani says:

    Ur thoughts n perpeceptions r worth appreciation,i liked almost ur all spritual article very much,Now time everyone across the globe turning towards vedas for all the answers n unsolved mystery n scientific reasons,and .i m keen to learn that ..:-)

  6. Ashok says:

    @DH YES Single God societies live peacefully examples like the crucification of Lord Jesus where His ideas among the single God society rejected Him.Catholic hegemony , the rise of Islam, Spanish Portuguese Inqustiton and Crusades later the genocide of red Indians in America and aboriginals in Australia are the references in history for this. If you are not aware of this check it.

  7. DH says:

    Some thoughts –
    1. Idol worship or words: Words to praise God almighty were taught by him to his messengers. Wheras idols were created by humans themselves
    2. God does not fear or envy other gods. He has given limited freedom to his humans to do good or evil. If they chose to worship others than the one true God, then that is up to them. Just like they have a choice to drink alcohol, smoke tobacco or do drugs.
    3. God is the creator and master. If you obey him, you will reap rewards otherwise you will be punished. It is your choice.
    4. Single God societies have lived in peace in the past and there has been violence in societies that worship multiple gods. Historical evidences are available to substantiate this.
    5. Punyabhoomi should not be restricted to India alone – the whole world is a Punyabhoomi where we do good deeds and get Punya
    6. We do not need to do things just because our ancestors did…

    There is no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from error. May God guide you to the truth.

  8. M_Raghavan says:

    A fascinating conversation, one which tries to take two tangential views of life and bring them to compromise.

    Some corrections, however. Classic Tamil refer to “mupathu mUvar amarargal”, 33 gods. Let us remember that Tamil mythology wad less about sacrifice to deities and more about human behavior in its understanding of the Divine.

    Also note they are called amarargal – Immortals, not gods, to suggest there is Something Higher. In my studies of Tamil culture, this Higher is seen as One Who is Kind and Selfless in caring for humanity. Thirumal and Murugan are the two concepts of God in Tamil who fit this description, and single pointed devotion to them can be likened to monotheism, although they are miles apart in their tolerance towards other faiths.

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